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The Watchman's avatar

I tend to agree with most of your analysis, unfortunately, we have the" Great Flip-Flopping Orange Man" and you never know what log he'll throw in the fire. He's already sending a carrier group there. That should scare anyone!!!

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That's true. Look at how he just flipped on immigration, saying maybe we should spare all the farm workers and hotel workers. Did he just figure out now how dependent we've made ourselves on them and what turmoil making a sudden switch would do? I mean, he owns the hotels. Did he not know who worked for him? He's just suddenly discovered they are hard workers?

I don't want to see lots more immigrants let into the country because I think we have way too many people already, and we have all these illegal ones where we don't even know who they are. For me, it has nothing to do with their race or nationality. There are just too many people, and I'm against creating a peasant class of workers or having people here we know nothing about.

So, we don't need more people, but if you just send all of those we've built our economy around packing in one big fell swoop, you're going to have a lot of crops rotting on the vine this year. And if you lock them up in Guantanamo, you're locking up a lot of basically good people just wanting a job--hardly something that is worth the harshest of prisons.

It's just like how he was going to lock up Hillary until he decided she's "good people." Ol' flipper! And, of course, really he's just listening to the rich people who have petitioned him. There is no well-thought-out-plan. Just chaos.

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The Watchman's avatar

Don't know how often you check my website https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/ for news links, but I linked an interesting article from Peter St Onge's Substack last Friday on immigration - How Mass Migration Creates Labor Shortages - https://www.profstonge.com/p/how-mass-migration-causes-labor-shortages

When you get some time, you might want to read it.

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David Haggith's avatar

Thanks. I'll include that one in today's headlines. It makes a number of good points. I definitely believe we need to end all illegal immigration and stop turning a blind eye to it. I do think, in the case of farm workers, however, we've spent decades creating a completely dependent labor economy that is practically based on slave labor; so, to make the change without hurting ourselves, we need a little more graduated approach than a broad axe to the roots. No point in having trainloads of crops rot in the field because every farmer was shocked at harvest time this summer to find they had none of the labor they usually count on.

The hotels, I don't so much care about. We're not dependent on them for food, and so we may have to pay a little more for a hotel stay without the cheaper labor. I fully agree with the article about the overall hidden costs of this peasant labor culture. Certainly, every illegal who is not working the fields, needs to go now. Any illegal who is working the fields, needs to be vetted to see if he might be a terrorist, but most likely he or she would not be working the fields as a terrorist. Still, you don't know. If that's what you had to do to hide among the population, that would be what you'd do.

Process through the illegal farm workers that you deem are truly essential to not upsetting the existing farm economy as it is to give them green cards so long as they can show they are actively working and not on welfare at all. Then let the farmers know that, if THEY hire anymore illegals without the proper paperwork, THEY, the FAMERS, are going to jail. Let them know the number of green cards issued will also not be increasing. We won't be growing the labor force for farming anymore in that way.

That gives farmers (many of them big agribusinesses) time to adjust with a labor force that works for now, but expansion down the road will require more dependency on mechanization or better wages to attract more American citizen workers, meaning higher produce costs for the rest of us as we ween ourselves off the "benefits" of peasant labor. There is no getting around the fact that produce will cost more without the peasant labor pool. There is a reason societies like to have their peasants and slaves, but the social cost is enormous, and we can live with more expensive cotton. We won't LIKE living with less, but that's the cost.

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The Watchman's avatar

He might have backed off on the hotels since he he owns four in the U.S. Might affect his bottom line.

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Also might have to update this as of today. Trump is now saying "We have total control of Iran's skies". We sure sound like he is definitely saying the U.S. is involved. Which would indicate more of a World War than a neighboring conflict.

Don't remember Congress declaring anything, but have they ever since WWII?

Also he said he didn't care what his intelligence director, Tulsi Gabbard, said about Iran.

According to RT, "In late March, Gabbard said that the US intelligence community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003.”"

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David Haggith's avatar

When I listened carefully to what Trump said, I got a little different impression than what I saw in the headline when I read the same story. What I actually heard sounded more like Israel did all the attacking, but it used a lot of hardware it bought from the US because what I noticed was not Trump boasting about our forces but boasting about our equipment. It did sound like he sees what Israel is doing as a big success, and he'd like some of that success to rub off on him.

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