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Greg's avatar

"Iraq’s permission, however, might not be that hard to get since it has long seen Iran as its arch enemy, even deploying chemical weapons against it.)"

Iraq and Iran are allies today or at minimum regionally cohabitating in the same neighborhood without incident. Saddam's war against Iran was US inspired when he was our dictator. We even supplied him the chemical weapons.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/31/iraq.politics

As an additional note Iraq to no avail has repeatedly asked the US to withdraw its troops. Apparently, they are confident enough that they don't require US military to protect them against Iran.

Iran is approximately one year away from developing a bomb per the experts. They can produce the fissile material in about a week to two weeks.

Iran also has the capability of launching hundreds of ICBMs into Israel today. Israel's Iron Dome didn't fare too well the last time Iran "retaliated" against Israeli aggression into Iran with antiquated missiles. Iran has also developed hypersonic missiles. Iran has a space program. This is not the Iran that most Americans foolishly think is a backwater theological autocracy.

Trump needs to be advised by those in the know that if Netanyahu attacks Iran with the intent of destroying its nuclear research and deployment facilities not only can they respond as earlier laid out but they can also block the Straits of Hormuz thereby stopping all tankers from shipping oil out of the Middle East. Translation: Oil goes to a minimum of $300 per barrel, ergo a worldwide depression. And what happened the last time the world experienced a depression? WW II soon followed.

Let's hope that cooler heads prevail in Jerusalem, Washington D.C, London and Tehran.

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David Haggith's avatar

I don't know that there is anything there I'd disagree with in terms of what can happen or what the US has done in the past, but you are writing about what you think SHOULD happen between Israel and Iran, while I am writing only about what I believe is GOING TO happen.

To address that, you only have to ask one simple question: In spite of all the problematic results that can come from Israel attacking Iran's nuclear plants, can you see any situation at all in the world where Israel will have a less problematic opportunity to attack Iran's nuclear facilities? I can't imagine one, so I'll need you to show me how a better opportunity for a military solution will ever present itself. If they are as resolved as they have long claimed to be to use their military to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, it will be now or never.

That is not to say it won't go bad for them as it easily could, but just that I'm sure they are aware this is the cleanest shot they've ever had and likely ever will have IF they're determined to knock out those facilities before Iran does gain a nuclear weapon. It is still fraught with potential problems, but they'll never find an opportunity wrapped up with a bow. So, for better or worse, I believe they're going to take this shot.

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Greg's avatar

To answer your question, at this very moment, this is Netanyahu's best opportunity because as we speak he is in the dock for corruption charges. This is not Israel's best opportunity because she has time.

It is my understanding that for Israel to bomb and destroy Iran's further deployment of a bomb with a nuclear warhead and production of the fissile material facility or separate facilities, Israel would need the US to transfer a bunker buster, which still may not work if Iran's underground facilities are deeper than the US best bunker buster can't penetrate conventionally, which I would've developed so deep that it would take several generations of development by the US to develop so the Iranian nuclear warhead, etc., would be a fait accompli long before another new and improved bunker buster could be deployed. Moreover, why wouldn't Iran develop another facility or more as backup(s). I am reasonably positive Iran has more than just a couple of scientists that can duplicate what is occurring in the one underground site of fissile material and/or a one/second nuclear warhead development site.

The US could transfer a bunker buster with a nuclear warhead that would do the job but that raises politically and militarily more problems which neither the Biden administration nor Trump IMO would sanction nor would any sane thinking individual.

So, if what I wrote is accurate, Israel can't do it without US help and even then if the US foolishly sent them the bomb which I am sure Israel would reverse engineer then construct and use but this time with a nuclear warhead should the first bombing not work, we are entering into the world of Dr. Strangelove. Netanyahu is definitely a narcissist. It is only a question if he is a megalomaniac with ambitions beyond Greater Israel.

I would also like you to consider that the last time Israel flew to Iran and bombed besides violating Syrian and Iraqi airspace or Jordanian and Saudi airspace it has been reported that the bombing didn't accomplish anything noteworthy and some Israeli jets didn't return. Given the recent state of affairs, I am sure Putin or Xi have provided Iran with better missile intercepts and radar tracking devices.

IMO this escalation by Israel is reaching the point where even the war hawks at US state, defense, intelligence have to consider that an escalation to what I earlier laid out is not in anyone's interest including the US.

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Dan Gilfry's avatar

Yep!

Old Satan has a Big Boner for the

Third Jewish World War!

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